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well I guess thats what I get for not doing what my uncle said. I only got to run two trips to memphis back to the rock. I wont be getting over 700 this week. Lets see what happens next week.
[This message was edited by Today's Tom Sawyer on November 11, 2002 at 08:31.]

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But you ARE a employee. Most employers dont take kindly to not following instructions,
Any company and/or dispatcher would not treat you to good trips if you dont produce or follow procedures.
Pretty simple,
TC
Old Man says, listen to who writes your checks

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Are you just starting out? If so, heck, I don't think a bit under 700 is bad for a bad week.
Hubby had a trainer tell him that he really wouldn't see the good money until about a year into his driving. He was right.
Kris

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Well things are getting deep.
Tom, you said you make .22 cents a mile.
Now under perfect conditions if you ran 3,000 miles a week that's $660.00 a week.
Now at 3,000 a week @ 60 mph that's 50 hours driving time in 7 days. 50/7= 7.14 hours a day.
Now you're saying you make more than $700 a week @ .22 cents a mile and your uncle is concerned about HOS.
700/.22 = 3,161 miles
Now Hoss, Rose, Canuck, IRR and any other driver, how many a miles a week does your average solo driver turn?
2,700 on a good week?
I know 3,000 is doable; however, trucking has draw backs.
You have cities, scales, loading time, un-loading time, hills, bad weather, etc.
3,000 miles a week X 52 weeks = 156,000 miles a year. Now unless trucking has changed dramatically I think some one's eye's are brown.
Tell your stories but keep in mind some people here read and remember post and have a little background on trucking.
How about it? Am I off base? Does over 3,000 miles a week sound fishy?
Keep the faith.
Mike
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I know Mike, it dosnet make sence and every time he posts on this board he is digging himself deeper in that hole. Dont call him a liar because he gets mad at that. You will be called a hog slapper like everyone else here who has called him a liar.
One thing you forgot Mike. His uncle supposely bought a brand new W900 for this "newbie" to drive. Im sorry but with the payments on a new truck these days, a truck and its driver can do all but sit. If the truck isent moving, it isent making money. Also you cant tell the bank to hold off the payments for awhile. Before long you will have the repo guys taking the truck under your nose.
We all know he is a liar but we will play the game along with him.


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Hey LC , you mean hes STRETCHINNNNNNNNN the truth.
I checked out the TODD TRUCKING that he is suppose to be working for , only 1 listed was in PA and they show 0 Trucks 0 drivers on their registery listing ?

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We will wait and see what you reappear as.
TC, forgot you folks snifted this fraud out before.

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Originally posted by Mike M:
Now Hoss, Rose, Canuck, IRR and any other driver, how many a miles a week does your average solo driver turn?
2,700 on a good week?
Yeah, 2700 in a good week!
Even less on our LTL loads!
Today's Tom Sawyer sounded like he sat on his butt all week. Yet he made $700.00 at .22 cents per mile!
Guess he forgot what lie he told to who!
As Mike M pointed out. At .22 cent per mile, this hero would have to run some high miles to get over $700.00 a week!
You can fool some truck drivers. But, you can't fool a guy who audits log books!
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Indiana RoadRunner
A legend in his own mind!

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SCN, I don't know where you run but with the east coast as congested as it is how do you really run 3,400 miles legal?
At 60 mph that's 56 hours driving time. Now add 1 hour a day for fuel, logging, paper work, bumping docks (it takes time to stop, set the brakes, climb out, open doors, get back into the cab, release the brakes, put the vehicle in gear, back-in and drop-off/pick-up paper work) and check calls you have 64 hours.
Now you're saying you do this in a week. Which has to be 7 days or less. 3,400/7 = 485 miles a day with 8 hours driving time every day. We all know you can only work 8.25 hours a day and work all 8 days.
So now for week 2 you lose one day so you're saying you run 3,400 miles in 6 days. That's 566 miles a day with about 9.25 hours a day driving time.
Yeah I'd say perfect timing is an understatement.
Time condensing is common and dropping 15 minutes here and there add up.
Don't you take any time off? How many days are you saying the 64 hours is done in 6 - 7 days? Can't say 8 because you're saying 3,400 a week.
Again, until I sit down and look at the books I have to take your word at it; however, keep in mind that the electronic trail is getting more revealing every day.
When I go into a carrier I ask for a print out from payroll broke down by driver, by week the top 10% performers are selected and more often than not have the violations.
The burden is mine to discover the violations; however, with all of the supporting documentation available and the use of programs such as PC Miler the violations are discovered.
Stay safe and....
Keep the faith.
Mike
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[This message was edited by Mike M on November 10, 2002 at 00:08.]

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Originally posted by Mike M:
Now Hoss, Rose, Canuck, IRR and any other driver, how many a miles a week does your average solo driver turn?
2,700 on a good week?
I know 3,000 is doable; however, trucking has draw backs.
You have cities, scales, loading time, un-loading time, hills, bad weather, etc.
3,000 miles a week X 52 weeks = 156,000 miles a year. Now unless trucking has changed dramatically I think some one's eye's are brown.
How about it? Am I off base? Does over 3,000 miles a week sound fishy?
Keep the faith.
Mike
But 2700 would cause me to have a real long disscussion with the DM, my weekly average is around 3000...2600 to 2900 on the short week, and 3000 to 3400 on the long(I run 12 out)and I run em legal
What helps me do this is alot of D/H and hardly any docktime.(I bump a dock maybe two to three times a stint out)But I do have an awfully tight book the last three to four days out.(this time I had 15 minutes left getting into the house)
Have spent some days waitin to midnight to get hours to keep moving also.

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I thought the first post from the Sawyer kid was trying to say he made 2 round trips from Little Rock to Memphis all week. Stretched the two 300-mile round trips into a little more, but wouldn't crack 700 miles for the week.
Then Mike replies on 11-09 about SteelCityNomad's 11-10 post. Scratched my head on how that happened.
SCN said he drives an average of 3200 miles for the full 7-day week and 2750 miles for the short 5-day week, for a total of 12 days out. This caused Mike to go off on a bender about putting together two 3400-miles back-to-back weeks and how it probably can't be done legally.
I dunno...

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3000 divided by 61 1/4 hours per 7 day week=49 mph,now minus fuel and VI's plus pickups and deliveries,throw in Ohio and other slow midwest states,plus the mountains of PA.,scales,city streets,rush hour traffic and SCN can't do what he says legally,but he is Happy breaking the federal HOS laws to make Smitty rich.
Thats if he even drives a truck and it ain't just another story.
Wyle E. Coyote
Supergenius!

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SCN
"my weekly average is around 3000"
Mike has him pegged,it can't be done legally running the part of the country he runs.
Wyle E. Coyote
Supergenius!

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amazing ain't it
Wyle E. Coyote
Supergenius!

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Originally posted by JSG:
SCN
"my weekly average is around 3000"
Mike has him pegged,it can't be done legally running the part of the country he runs.
Wyle E. Coyote
Supergenius!
I will gladly hand Mike(or any D.O.T.) my book at any time, because everytime I have handed my book over I have been commended on my logging, my neatness, and my correctness(Since I have never been cited by the DOT or any company for log violations, and have turned in quite a few level I, II,& III Inspections)
Now I would like you to tell me just what part of the country I run......wanna bet you won't even get close?