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Okay i have a question.. I'm going to work for werner on Tuesday... I see that most of there trucks are super 10 I was trained on eaton 13 speed is there a lot of differnce in the 2 trans. on shifting???

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Basically, on the 13 you split the upper side. On the Super 10 you split each "hole". If you have ever driven a two speed axle, the Super 10 operates on the same principle.

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No alomst the same Super shifts just like the 13 when you finger shift. Just lift your throttle foot a little and let it shift.
I dont care for them myself but to each his own. About a half day and you should have it down pat dont sweat it.

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I drove three trucks for Werner with the Super Ten Top-2. Simple. Just a five-speed pattern -- you split each gear = ten gears. No "range" button, just the splitter on the side of the knob.
But.....most of Werner's new trucks -- and we've got a gobs of new ones right now -- are "9-speed". It's actually a 13 or 18 speed that's 'blocked' so you can't get the top gear -- and a couple others along the way. These so-called nine speeds (low-under plus 9 more gears) have a srange button, no splitter, so you got to hit all the holes twice from 1 to 9.
I liked the 10-speed a lot better - extremely easy and fast. But Werner's trying to buy equipment that sells better when we're thru with it. The 10-speeds are light-duty and (I've been told) not warranted past 80,000lbs. The 9-speeds we've got now will be 'un-blocked' and turned into full 13 or 18 speeds when we sell them -- that's apparently what most buyers want.
Good luck at Werner -- this is agood time to come aboard. Maybe you'll be one of my students. See ya...

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I use to hate super 10's. Always had problem with the tranny going into neutral after finger shifting. One of my co-workers told me the way I shifted was wrong. Before I used the cluch whiling finger shifting, not suppose to do that. Found that it works better if I finger shift before the rpm's max out. Now that I've found that out I like the super 10. Also have driven a two speed axle.

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Quick question. Once you've learned the super 10, How difficult is it to learn an 18 speed? Looks like its almost the same method.

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nert,
Well, yes -- it's the same thing in that you're still adjusting rpm by 'touch', etc.
The practical difference is:
The 10-speed only FIVE stick positions. (one range)
The 9/13/18-speed has TEN stick positions. (two ranges)
The 9/13/18 are great - pull good, better rpm matching, etc.
But that 10-speed is so darn simple, (and sweet to float too -- below 1600 of course).
With the ten, you've can do 45-65 in the last position, with just the splitter (or auto shift, if you don't disengage it).
Below 45, you just pust the stick forward. Then you can go down to 25 or 30. So you dod most of your driving in just two stick positions.
On the 9/13/18, you have to come down to the third and second position more, and if you get below 25, you have to shift ranges and hit all those positions again...
I miss my 10-speed
[This message was edited by Shuffler on October 13, 2002 at 01:09.]

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I miss my 13 speed for the hills can't beat that half gear for climbing!!
aman
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Thanks, for all the info on the super 10.. Sound like it should be that hard to drive with a little time in the seat..

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You can learn any transmission and know it like the back of your hand with some time in the seat. How long it takes to learn it isn't really important in the 'long run' (excuse the pun).
The 13/18-speed is preferred by most drivers because you've got more gears (smaller rpm ranges between each gear) to choose from. They offer better rpm matching to road speeds -- means faster hill climbing and lower rmp running on the flat -- that's what drivers want.
But that 10-speed, despite the awkward shift point right at 55mph, allows you to grab a gear very quickly without much thought or effort.
In the end, it doesn't matter. Whatever you drive is whatever you drive, and you'll eventually become profecient on any transmission they give you...

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On the Super-10, you don't have to worry about when you split the gears. On the 13 and 18 speeds, you do--or is it just the 18 speed? Can't remember.
Anyway, the stick HAS to be in the final postion BEFORE you split, even when downshift; in other words, you can't "preselect" the splitting as you can in a Super 10. This was important for me to learn.
Oh, and that 'going into neutural' thing with the Super 10 . . . yeah, pain in the butt. I also wasn't giving it enough time before hitting the clutch. So, I preselected a little earlier, and that made a lot of difference.
For the road,
Starkman
For the road,
Starkman