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When are we supposed to go back to the old HOS rules?Wayne


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Three days from never. I an not a driver yet, but i do read Landline. It seems the new rules are in effect even though the panel of 3 judges said that the rules do not take into consideration drivers health (or something like that). The rules stay in effect until there are new recommendations, through any appeals (which could go to the supreme court). Dont hold your breath, it could be months maybe a year before anything happens. At least thats what I gather from Landline.

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Last I heard the new HOS rules were overturned and the Supreme Court was allowing five weeks for appeals, before reverting back to the old rules.Wayne


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It is all in a limbo right now. The "new" rules are in effect until further notice. Check in with the FMCSA web site from time to time for updates.
FMCSA
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This story was from mid July. Not sure of the precise date, though. I'm thinking it was the 16th of July.

I highlighted the paragraph in the middle for emphasis. Forty five days would be about the end of August. I take it things have changed since this story was released? I don't get home much. Wayne


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There really has not been much updated since the report came out about the court over turning the new HOS. It will probably go right up to the wire before we hear anything.
45 days would place it right wround August 30.
If you have not done so already read through some of these posts. Particularly the ones by Opie. Past posts about Hos court ruling
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Thanks, I will. Like I said, I don't get home much and figured this would be the fastest means of getting the skinny on the new v. old rules.Wayne


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which way would you guys want it to fall? back to the old rules, stay with the new rules, or change it all together??

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The more I think about it I wouldnt mind seeing something like this:
12 on 12 off. You are either on duty or off duty. Once you start your day you are on duty and get rid of lines 3 and 4 (driving and on duty not driving) by combining into one line of one duty.
Sleeper may be split on a 4 and 8 or 6 and 6 option only.
72 hours in 6 days max and then 48 hours continuous off duty time which would then reset your 72 hour clock.
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I perfer 14 On & 10 Off as long as we can stop & start the clock like we used to with the "old" rules.(with a 34 hr reset)
But, I would settle for 12 On & 12 Off as long as we can stop & start the clock like we used to with the "old" rules.(with a 34 hr reset)

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How about the current HOS but change the 14hr clock to a 24 hr clock
Or keep the clock but be able to stop it so you can have time to sit and eat.

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Being an expiditer, I like the new rules. Gives me an extra hour to drive. When I load up, I don't stop until I deliver anyway, so the old rule of stopping the clock with off duty time is of no benefit to me. However, ten hours off is just plain stupid. Even totally exhausted, after 48 hours of being awake and on duty (which I did many times while in the Corps), I've never needed more than 6 hours of sleep to be fully recharged again. Under normal conditions, 4-5 hours sleep is adequate.
Do ya'll know what the HOS rules are for airline pilots. Considering the way we're regulated, you'd think the HOS rulebook for pilots would be chapters long.
It's not.
They're rules are quite simplistic. In any 24 hour period, they must have 8 hours off duty. It's that simple, they're left to themselves to do what they want with those 8 hours. They're considered professionals and they are left to themselves to get the rest they need in those 8 hours.Wayne


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I do know thanks to your post.

They are also required to work less per month than you do per week.
You may want to take a look at their rules before making any further comments...
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidan...0B3D?OpenDocument