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Hi,,,
My Boyfriend,who is a newbie with werner (3 1/2 wks) has a ? about how to log when driving in differend timezones.i.e,,,going from idaho thru colorado and california??
When he asks his trainer,he gets the standard answer,,,I showed it to you already.(one time)
Guess he(trainer)forgot how overwelming it can be!
I'v read all the comments and questions about logs on here,even from drivers that have been driveing a while,seems kind of unfair to think a newbie understands them after being shown only one time.He will take hometime soon and hopefully his next trainer will be more helpful.
Any help is appreciated -->
Safe Driving to all of you,,,,,
sandy

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exactly how Werner's paperless logs work the basic answer to your question is that you log the same time zone as your home terminal. You do not switch your logging time just because you cross from one time zone to another.
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Yes he has to do his own logs during his training, and his trainer tells him,,,they have to reflect the differend timezones.He will do paperless logs after he is done with his 8 weeks.
so i need to know,how to figure out hours, when differend timezones are involved.
I think the problem he is having is that the trainer does not know how to log himself. You have been told over and over that the driver must log his time in the time zone of the home terminal, however, the trainer seems to be contradicting this creating much confusion.
It does not matter where he is in the country or what time zone he is running in, he still logs according to what time zone his home terminal is.
Now, go with the laws of averages. If twenty experienced drivers are telling you one thing, and one Werner trainer is telling you the opposite, who is likely to be right?
A bad trainer is about the worse thing a new driver can have. I have seen the results of this over and over when they come to me looking for work. It's not a pretty picture.
Tell your driver to try his best to learn the right thing, despite what he is being taught. I only hope this is the only wrong thing he is teaching!
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I have to agree with the replies here. This guy needs to get a new trainer before he gets fed up and quits. This would be a real sad thing.
My guy also just started driving for Werner a couple months ago. THANK GOD he's already driven for awhile and has a handle to whats going on. Still, he has numerous problems with his dispatcher giving him short runs, not answering his questions etc...(you'd think a simple 'yes or no' thing wouldn't be that tuff. He would not be happy with me sticking my nose in but couldn't he request a new dispatcher?? Are ALL trucking companies so difficult??? It was my understanding that these qualcoms can tell dispatch darned near everything.... so why do they message him back and ask him how far is his from his final and other such things??
Cindy

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Originally posted by mikesgal:
I have to agree with the replies here. This guy needs to get a new trainer before he gets fed up and quits. This would be a real sad thing.
My guy also just started driving for Werner a couple months ago. THANK GOD he's already driven for awhile and has a handle to whats going on. Still, he has numerous problems with his dispatcher giving him short runs, not answering his questions etc...(you'd think a simple 'yes or no' thing wouldn't be that tuff. He would not be happy with me sticking my nose in but couldn't he request a new dispatcher?? Are ALL trucking companies so difficult??? It was my understanding that these qualcoms can tell dispatch darned near everything.... so why do they message him back and ask him how far is his from his final and other such things??
Cindy
Yes the QC can tell the dispatcher just about anything they want to know but the more features they use the more it costs. Most companies use the tracking features to update a vehicles location within the last 10-30 minutes depending on how the trucking company has things set up. If there is a problem they can get an almost real time update but it does cost them more to do it.
Sometimes dispatchers have a pretty good idea of where you are at and still ask the driver just as a check to be sure the driver really knows what is going on. Also if the driver happens to be hauling a new account or one that the trucking company is on the verge of losing due to service failures the dispatchers and/or customer service people will often times want frequent updates from the driver to make sure he is on time and on course.
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Thank you so much for your reply's -->
You all been very helpful.
He is looking forward to his upcoming hometime and sleeping in a bed that does not move(LOL) and getting a NEW trainer. -->
I'm sure i'll be asking more ?? as time goes on,and its good to know someone will be there to answer them.
Safe Driveing to all of you!!!
sandy

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In accordance with HOs regulations, we log everything in Central Time -- the local time at Werner's main location in Omaha Nebraska.
I would suggst setting the QualComm to central time ( I do) since all log detail you get off the computer is in central time. It's just easier than way, I think.
All other load detail on the QualComm is written/communicated in the time zone it takes place in.
Example: If the load message says pick-up in New York at 13:00 and deliver in L.A at 21:00 -- those are both those city's local times, NOT central time.
Example: If your dispatcher asks, "will you be empty by 11:00?", they're referring to the time zone the driver is in.
At Werner, everything is local time at the location it happens except logs. All logs are central time.
Students keep a paper log book while training. You HAVE to know logs inside and out, since the paperless log system is exactly the same thing. You have to plan and manage your time in strict accordane with HOS rules -- more so than if you just kept a paper log -- since we HAVE to actually DRIVE it legal. The truck DOES NOT log it 9accurately) for you. You MUST enter your duty changes on the QualComm, or the system will screw you out of everything it can't account for or absolutely prove by the truck's GPS position reports. In fact, at Werner you'll end-up knowing much more about logging than most othr drivers. The system is unforgiving and all truck movement must be in strict accordance with HOS regulations.......so the hassle of keeping a peper log in training is time well spent in the long run.
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One more thing for those intersted:
Werner has "dispatchers" in several other time zones ! Yet, we all log in Central time. We can do that because the loads are actually "assigned" from the load planners in Omaha. Dispatchers are called "fleet managers", but technically don't assign the loads. The load planners in Omaha actually match the loads to the specific truck and have final authority over dispatch managers and supervisors.
[This message was edited by Shuffler on July 22, 2003 at 15:39.]