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Van Cleef pour homme is a classic which I have worn even before joining Basenotes. Alongwith Polo Green, this is the fragrance which has been popular with the senior men in my family. I bought a new bottle last week, and to my nose, I detect some differences. I think either Pluran or Scentemental commented on the supposed reformulations but I could be mistaken.

To my nose, there are some differences in the juice. I also own a bottle from the early-mid 90s - these bottles dont have the word "pour homme" on the face. Interms of composition, I notice that the new formulation starts off brighter but the floral heart is more subdued. I smell more cedar in the old formulation as well. Although it still sports good longevity, it seems like it doesnt last as long as the old formulation. The new bottle just seems less virile overall. Somethings not right.

Has Van Cleef been tinkering with the original formula ?

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Originally Posted by zztopp Van Cleef pour homme is a classic which I have worn even before joining Basenotes. Alongwith Polo Green, this is the fragrance which has been popular with the senior men in my family. I bought a new bottle last week, and to my nose, I detect some differences. I think either Pluran or Scentemental commented on the supposed reformulations but I could be mistaken.

To my nose, there are some differences in the juice. I also own a bottle from the early-mid 90s - these bottles dont have the word "pour homme" on the face. Interms of composition, I notice that the new formulation starts off brighter but the floral heart is more subdued. I smell more cedar in the old formulation as well. Although it still sports good longevity, it seems like it doesnt last as long as the old formulation. The new bottle just seems less virile overall. Somethings not right.

Has Van Cleef been tinkering with the original formula ? ZZ — your right, this has been discussed before, even in the last few months. Other threads even give directions as to how to locate the older bottles, which are still around. Your perceptions on the differences accord very well with what others said, if I remember correctly.

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I'm a glad owner of the old stuff. A 30ml bottle, so I treat is as a jewel. It's different to the new thing.
Last month I got a 50ml of Givenchy Gentleman (old stuff also); glad I did, as it's much better than the new version.
I'm glad Eluard pointed the differences early enough, because it was the last bottle in that store. Thank you.
I would be glad to find Guerlain Vetiver old version also. But in my area, it's impossible.
There's something very bad happening in the fragrance world, as everybody seems to agree.

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Originally Posted by smeller I'm a glad owner of the old stuff. A 30ml bottle, so I treat is as a jewel. It's different to the new thing.

Last month I got a 50ml of Givenchy Gentleman (old stuff also); glad I did, as it's much better than the new version.

I'm glad Eluard pointed the differences early enough, because it was the last bottle in that store. Thank you.

I would be glad to find Guerlain Vetiver old version also. But in my area, it's impossible.

There's something very bad happening in the fragrance world, as everybody seems to agree. Well i am have the newer version of VCA ph...and i absolutely love it...as they u dont miss what you dont see...so i have no clue wut the original version of VCA ph smells like...i remember when this was being discussed in the earlier threads i did try to dig for a vintage version but cudnt find it...i wud love to give it a try though given the fact how much i like the newer version....

I do own both the newer and the vintage version of the guerlain vetiver....i am yet to discover the difference in them though....

gupts

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Originally Posted by gupts I do own both the newer and the vintage version of the guerlain vetiver....i am yet to discover the difference in them though....

gupts I only own the newer, so I wish you're right. But, unfortunately, as far I as remember, you're the only basenotes member who thinks this way. And, based on the differences I now feel between my Givenchy Gentlemans (newer and vintage), I feel difficult to believe there's no change on Guerlain Vetiver.

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I'm with gupts in not seeing the difference between the old and new formula GV......................you're not alone gupts

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I have the vintage version, and it seems super concentrated as well as slightly animalic, as opposed to what I can remember from the newer version. Even though I love the old version I have, it can be a little too much for me to wear sometimes. Maybe the newer version would fit in my wardrobe for when I feel that the old version is a little too much or heavy.

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Originally Posted by zztopp Interms of composition, I notice that the new formulation starts off brighter but the floral heart is more subdued. I smell more cedar in the old formulation as well. Although it still sports good longevity, it seems like it doesnt last as long as the old formulation. The new bottle just seems less virile overall. Somethings not right. You are right here, but instead of saying something's not right here, i'd say something is different.

Originally Posted by zztopp Has Van Cleef been tinkering with the original formula ? Yes they have,even if they won't say so.
I like both scents just fine.
The juice is still very elegant and very smooth.