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Originally Posted by nearfantastica John,
To me, Declaration reminds me of Bulgari PH with a dirty kick. Almost as if you took a hint of that stinky orange, added some lemon and mixed in some of the slight smoke/tea character of Bulgari PH. It's a good fragrance, but was unfortunately far to feral on my skin. My dad wears it quite proudly, though.
Bulgari is sexy, on it's own.. in a serious/stuffy kind of way, but with the added sweaty citrus note, Declaration thrusts it's head forth in a very healthy nod, to Dior's Eau Sauvage.... but then quickly recoils in Bulgari PH modesty. It's certainly worth a try. There are three versions and I suggest the Concentrated one.
a. Nice desciption.
I agree. Declaration is not a real citrus to me. It's more balmy, smokey , woody to me. A bit dirty yet very classy and balanced. I almost forgot about this one.

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Good effort rach2ljc!
You should give Czech & Speake's Neroli some due consideration, as it is spicy, bitter sweet & quite refreshing.

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Hermes' Eau d'Orange Verte--if only it lasted longer than 10 minutes! Even the Concentree is fleeting, but a lovely bitter citrus while it lasts.

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How about YSL Live Jazz ? I find bitter grapefruit note quite attractive (alongwith the coriander).

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Originally Posted by DustB I think I need help spotting bitter citrus rather than mere citrus. Then there are all the other citrus like elements that aren't exactly citrus precisely, like cedrat or verbena...
--Chris Cedrat is most definitely citrus, it is a citrus fruit similar to lemon but larger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron
Verbena is a herb.
As I smell it, bitter citrus means non-sweet, acidic, sharp citrus. Many orange frags are sweet (Eau de Orange verte, Acqua Di Parma Capri) but some are made from bigarade (bitter orange). Other citrus which is bitter would include cedrat, lemon, grapefruit, bergamot, lime, kumkwat. To me a bitter citrus frag is one dominated by and featuring citrus, not where citrus is one of the top notes in a blend. Many eaux de cologne feature what I would call "dry" citrus rather than bitter citrus. They have a little sharpness but this is smoothed by other notes. Acqua di Parma which contains prominent featured lemons is strongly sweetened so does not qualify as bitter to me.
Neroli has some bitterness, but has a strong floral sweeter component. I would describe it as having sharpness rather than being bitter.
Creed citrus bigarade
Malle Bigarade
Creed Bois De Cedrat
Guerlain Eau de Fleus de cedrat,
Trumpers limes
All these are noticably bitter to me (just the ones which spring to mind)

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I would say that Burberry Weekend has a little bit of the bitter citrus notes in its topnotes.

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I've only worn Burberry Touch a couple of times, but it seems to have a very sharp citrus note in it. Also, eau de Grey Flannel starts off with the same kind of sharp citrus note to my nose.

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Don't forget Citron Citron

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you are, rach, in fact, wanting rare and fabulous Citrus Paridisi for even starting this thread! And when you try layering it with Bigarade Concentrée.
well...
and what about that creed pamplemousse (sic)

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I certainly like my citrus bitter! Sweet, musky and powdery ones often lack the refreshing nature citrus fragrance should, in my opinion, have. Colonia Assoluta is prime example of this, what's the function of citrus in this one, when the drydown turns horribly sweet and cloying?
My favourites in this category include already mentioned Racine and Bigarade Concentreé. I'd also like to add Villoresi's Uomo and Santa Maria Novella's Acqua di Sicilia.