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Well, at least if it's a quality fragance, it might not be an impostor. i am sure that if it is real, it has to be a very special one. A real expert should be able to notice the ingredients.
I haven't tried it, i really don't like vintage fragances, i use YSL l'homme, a "nothing special" common scent, as many have described it in other thread.
I know nothing about perfume, i wouldn't know how to describe it, i would like to learn, that is why i joined basenotes. But unfortunately, at this time i only know two terms, "smells good" and "smells bad".
This Creed fragance smells good to me, not my type i guess. I have smelled most of what i sell, and sometimes i notice when a fragance smell similar to other one, like caron tabac blond and knize ten are very similar, All vetivers smell the same to me, Lanvin, Guerlain, R&G, etc... but this one smells different than any other fragance i have smelled, there is no point of comparison, i could say that it smells similar to something, but in this case i can't, the main reason is that my "perfume vocabulary" is VERY limited.
I would prefer to leave it listed and see what price reaches, after that i might set up a buy it now price for it. thanks. JLL

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Gentlemen, we need to keep the discussion on fragrances. This is not a marketplace or selling/buying forum.
Thank you all,
--Chris

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Quote: Originally Posted by CJ I dunno, maybe it's me, but as an American it seems like they type of hype-based marketing for which a seller simply screams. Creed has always has a very traditional marketing scheme; keep the packaging simple and let the product speak for itself. Even the shape of the Creed flagons harken back to the Napoleonic era, where Napoleon himself reputedly kept a "flask" of fragrance inside his boot due to the fact that he used it so often as to need it everywhere he went.
That said, I don't for one second believe that the aforementioned bottle is genuine, and even if I did would not purchase it without knowing what it smelled like. Basenotes has a reputation for discriminating tastes, not for buying random bottles without knowing what the bottles might contain. I have several lovely bottles lying around, as well as enough label and document printing software to start my owm "Vogue" magazine. The fact that I don't use them as this seller has speaks volumes as to my shortness of free time as well as to the seller's lack of virtue. I for one suggest we do not spend one more minute discussing the virtues of the virtue-less.
CJ I also suggest we do not spend one more minute being rude for no reason. I ordered four or five bottles from this seller last week (not the creed mind you, but some Lubin and vintage Chanel), and he was very honest about what he was selling. As well, they are geniune and still fresh. So, if you don't think it real, that's your business, but I don't see why you need to say it in that way or talk about "virtue" while acting like a total jerk.
Like I said before, if this were a "scheme" to get money from a fake, it's a lousy way to do it. Faking GIT, SMW or MI would make infinitely more money and hype. Selling 25 bottles of fake GIT at $40 a pop would make a LOT more money for a counterfeiter than one bottle at $99 of an unknown Creed fragrance. As well, I'd say it is probably only Basenotes members who even care anything about this, so how is it generating "hype?"
If I'm wrong, fine, but until it's proven that there something foul here I don't see why we need to go insulting somebody who seems like a perfectly decent seller.

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It seems as if there is a misconception here, and after reading the wording of my post, I suppose I am to blame.
I wasn't trying to infer that the actual seller of the bottle (who, by the way, I knew was a basenotes member when I wrote my post; reason enough for me not to insult him) but rather the person who packaged this Creed in the first place. I stand by my belief that this is not a genuine Creed bottle of fragrance, but I'm open to proof otherwise. That being said, my discussion of "virtue" or the lack thereof was aimed squarely at the person who I believe made what I consider to be a counterfeit Creed. After being burned once or twice by Creed counterfeiters, one can hardly blame me.
Be that as it may, I would like to offer theimportsguy a heartfelt apology for what must have seemed like an attack on him; I assure you that no such intent ever entered my mind.
CJ
Quote: Originally Posted by rach2jlc I also suggest we do not spend one more minute being rude for no reason. I ordered three or four bottles from this seller last week (not the creed mind you), and he was very honest about what he was selling. As well, they are geniune and still fresh. So, if you don't think it real, that's your business, but I don't see why you need to say it in that way or talk about "virtue" while acting like a total jerk.
Like I said before, if this were a "scheme" to get money from a fake, it's a lousy way to do it. Faking GIT, SMW or MI would make infinitely more money and hype. Selling 25 bottles of fake GIT at $40 a pop would make a LOT more money for a counterfeiter than one bottle at $99 of an unknown Creed fragrance.

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Quote: Originally Posted by CJ It seems as if there is a misconception here, and after reading the wording of my post, I suppose I am to blame.
I wasn't trying to infer that the actual seller of the bottle (who, by the way, I knew was a basenotes member when I wrote my post; reason enough for me not to insult him) but rather the person who packaged this Creed in the first place. I stand by my belief that this is not a genuine Creed bottle of fragrance, but I'm open to proof otherwise. That being said, my discussion of "virtue" or the lack thereof was aimed squarely at the person who I believe made what I consider to be a counterfeit Creed. After being burned once or twice by Creed counterfeiters, one can hardly blame me.
Be that as it may, I would like to offer theimportsguy a heartfelt apology for what must have seemed like an attack on him; I assure you that no such intent ever entered my mind.
CJ I see now what you mean, CJ, and I'm sorry for jumping on you. Rereading your post, I appreciate the clarification (because, in my initial reading, I did read it as being directed at the seller). I, too, am interested in hearing the resolution of this item when the verdict comes in and hope it is real, just because it would be interesting to hear of a relatively unknown fragrance from such an illustrious house. I guess I was just a little short with you because on the many Creed threads, there is often so much disinformation and guessing involved anyway that I just didn't want someone's reputation put into question before the results were in.
Anyway, thanks again for clarifying and cheers!

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No worries, John! I'm curious as to the verdict, too!
Cheers!
CJ

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at the same time I wrote this post on Saturday around 11:00 am I wrote about a seperate O Creed edt for sale at $250. that post is now about 50 threads below this one so let me take the opportunity to mention that it's now $100 less
whatever it says here is what was posted to ebay on Sat about 11 am.
There's an idea that I am the importguy or work with him. His listings came into my blog reader about 10 am on Sat thanks to RSS. you've seen the orange symbol which is now the international symbol for RSS just as theres a symbol for radiation danger.
this listing has been changed 3 times since the original according to the listing.
here we go
4/14/07
OLIVIER CREED 240ML EAU DE TOILETTE 4 MEN, VINTAGE RARE
http://cgi.ebay.com/OLIVIER-CREED-24...ILF%3AUS%3A102
YOU ARE BIDDING ON A VINTAGE RARE 8 OZ FULL BOTTLE OF OLIVIER CREED EAU DE TOILETTE FOR MEN. YES!! THERE IS AN OLIVIER CREED EAU DE TOILETTE FRAGANCE! THIS IS A VERY RARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND FRAGANCE. "OLIVIER CREED" WAS OLIVIER'S FIRST CREATION AT THE AGE OF 21 WITH THE HELP OF HIS FATHER JAMES HENRY IN 1968. THERE IS AN UNKNOWN TRADITION AT THE CREED FAMILY WHERE THE FIRST MALE DESCENDANT, BESIDES HAVING THE NAME HENRY (ALONG WITH ANY OTHER), HAS TO CREATE A NEW FRAGANCE AT THE AGE OF 21. THE INFUSION TECHNIQUE WAS USED TO PRODUCE THIS UNIQUE FRAGANCE. I AM NOT A PERFUME EXPERT, SO I CAN'T TELL WHAT NOTES ARE IN THIS FRAGANCE, BUT I HAVE SMELLED IT AND I ASSURE YOU IT HASN'T TURNED. BOX IS IN GOOD CONDITION. YOU CAN SEE THE CREED LOGO ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BOTTLE. OF COURSE THIS IS AN AUTHENTIC FRAGANCE-BOTTLE, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE NOSE OF OLIVIER TO MAKE A COPY OF HIS UNIQUE CREATIONS.

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Thank you John for your comment, and thank you CJ for clearing it up, i did felt attacked at first, but now that you have cleared it up i understand.
I am completely sure this is not a fake, my grandfather's store had a very good reputation and i am sure he would never put it at risk by buying-selling fakes, many celebrities visited the store because of it's good reputation and stock.
I am even thinking that this could even be back from the year Olivier was born, 1947, usually i get an idea of the age of what i find by the place where it was found, the warehouse is very big, and these creed bottles where in a corner where i found other rosine and houbigant bottles, i found two more creed cologne bottles today in a box that had written: "perfumeria antigua", "vintage perfumes", the store closed in 1986, i've seen what i think it could be the last boxes that where closed and stored in that year, but these "perfumeria antigua" boxes, really looked vintage, i could say it was from before the 70's, i hope that the Olivier Creed itself answers, i read somewhere that they asked him trough somebody, i don't remember if it was this thread.
I'l give you a little more information about the Creed. I tried a bit today, i don't know the words that have to be used to describe it but this is what i think of it:
It smells like tangerine!, at first is very citrus, at some point spicy, a mixed scent between lime and tangerine, then after a few minutes leaves a nice fresh scent like a field of orange trees, have you ever experienced something similar?, there is an atraction at Disneyland where you are supposed to be flying in front of a big screen, and you experience scents of the places you fly by, a golf course smells like grass, a forest smells like pines, and then you pass over a field of orange trees, and that is what it remind me, i still have it on the back of my hand and can catch a bit of it. I really didn't noticed any difference between the EDT, EDC & AF, i've smelled some fragances where the EDT is a bit different from the EDC, but they all smell the same to me. Is there any other vintage fragance that you know that smells similar to what i described? i was trying to find one but i couldn't, well, i only tried about 10 different, and the closest one i found, was 4711 original cologne, maybe because of the lime or something like that, but i found the 4711 kind of soapy, you know?, like bath soap??, but at least there is one ingredient that both have. Well, i hope at least this gives you an idea before some real expert tries it and posts his opinion. JLL

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Quote: Originally Posted by theimportsguy Thank you John for your comment, and thank you CJ for clearing it up, i did felt attacked at first, but now that you have cleared it up i understand.
I am completely sure this is not a fake, my grandfather's store had a very good reputation and i am sure he would never put it at risk by buying-selling fakes, many celebrities visited the store because of it's good reputation and stock.
I am even thinking that this could even be back from the year Olivier was born, 1947, usually i get an idea of the age of what i find by the place where it was found, the warehouse is very big, and these creed bottles where in a corner where i found other rosine and houbigant bottles, i found two more creed cologne bottles today in a box that had written: "perfumeria antigua", "vintage perfumes", the store closed in 1986, i've seen what i think it could be the last boxes that where closed and stored in that year, but these "perfumeria antigua" boxes, really looked vintage, i could say it was from before the 70's, i hope that the Olivier Creed itself answers, i read somewhere that they asked him trough somebody, i don't remember if it was this thread.
I'l give you a little more information about the Creed. I tried a bit today, i don't know the words that have to be used to describe it but this is what i think of it:
It smells like tangerine!, at first is very citrus, at some point spicy, a mixed scent between lime and tangerine, then after a few minutes leaves a nice fresh scent like a field of orange trees, have you ever experienced something similar?, there is an atraction at Disneyland where you are supposed to be flying in front of a big screen, and you experience scents of the places you fly by, a golf course smells like grass, a forest smells like pines, and then you pass over a field of orange trees, and that is what it remind me, i still have it on the back of my hand and can catch a bit of it. I really didn't noticed any difference between the EDT, EDC & AF, i've smelled some fragances where the EDT is a bit different from the EDC, but they all smell the same to me. Is there any other vintage fragance that you know that smells similar to what i described? i was trying to find one but i couldn't, well, i only tried about 10 different, and the closest one i found, was 4711 original cologne, maybe because of the lime or something like that, but i found the 4711 kind of soapy, you know?, like bath soap??, but at least there is one ingredient that both have. Well, i hope at least this gives you an idea before some real expert tries it and posts his opinion. JLL What were the two new bottles? More of the same? Full or empty?
Someone HAS to get info from Creed on this!!
Sounds like it was a classic Eau de Cologne.

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JLL,
Glad we could clear up the misunderstanding!
I have to admit that my skepticism is starting to give way to a small ray of hope that this stuff is real. I think the only way to be certain is to send it to Olivier himself and ask him. Whatever it costs to send to Paris, I'm sure that if its real you'll have no trouble making up the $ once he gives you confirmation.
As a huge Creed fan, I'm curious as hell to smell this stuff; it sounds like a cross between Orange Spice and Zeste Mandarine Pamplemousse; that would be consistent with many of the most popular men's fragrances of the time (citrusy and fresh, a la Dior's Eau Sauvage).
CJ