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I cant tell whether its real or not. The only way to know is to email Creed at their official US site. Oh btw, they told me that Creed Bois De Santal from their private collection is exclusive to Saks in nyc and Harrods haute perfumery (or something like that) in London.

I recall there being another Creed fragrance I saw on Ebay 1.5 years ago..."Bois De Rhodes" ... didnt know if it was fake.

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...i find the "housing" quite interesting....very .."vintage"....perhaps a very famous..." artiste " has been involved...or maybe we are all just fools!!!!

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who was the nose before Olivier? could this be a first cologne for young Olivier to get the hang of things?

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Quote: Originally Posted by fredricktoo who was the nose before Olivier? could this be a first cologne for young Olivier to get the hang of things? From what I know, Zesta Mandarin Pample-pimp was olivier's first fragrance. I asked the seller about the origins of this frag and heres what he replied:

"HI, THIS SHOULD BE FROM WAY BEFORE THE 80'S OR EVEN 70'S, MY GRANDPARENTS HAD A PERFUME STORE FROM 1928 TO 1986, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDEST COLOGNE'S I'VE FOUND IN THE WAREHOUSE, AND I HAVE JUST FOUND FOUR, THREE OF THEM WHERE EMPTY AND THIS IS THE ONLY ONE FULL. THANKS, FOR ASKING, THEIMPORTSGUY. "


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The guy who runs the European Imports Store inherited all of the fragrances from his grandfather who had an imports store from 1928 -1986. The grandson is selling everything that was left in the warehouse. He doesn't know anything about perfume. He has stuff that goes back to the sixties. He's a cool guy and will refund your money if you don't like the product. I'd bet the bottle is real. Whether or not its been stored properly is another question.

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I've purchased items from theimportguy before, no worries of the authenticity. How these fumes have been stored is another matter...Caveat emptor might be too strong of language, but use your head (eyes).

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Quote: Originally Posted by zztopp "...AND THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDEST COLOGNE'S I'VE FOUND..." Sounds interesting, but I have a strong policy against buying things from people who pluralize words by using an apostrophe.
All kidding aside, it seems someone wouldn't go through the trouble of aging a box like that just to pawn off some fake juice. I'd be interesting to see what this is all about.

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yes, there is a distinctly '60s vibe to this packaging. Anyone today wishing to make fake Creed probably would make their bottle and box a bit more true to the present's. Or is that using reverse psychology on reverse psychology?
While not being familiar with 1960s Creed product or potential spin-offs, there is something about this which seems like a real deal to me. At least very much from that time period. Maybe there was a lower-priced line that was extremely short-lived. Something about the packaging seems a bit down-market: "cologne for man?" It's like a foray into mass-production. If it is a fake, it definitely doesn't seem like a contemporary fake. Where are the fragrance historians out there? Maybe this is historical as the first of the Creed frauds!
On kind of a different note though, I'm surprised how much effort fakers put into the bottle and packaging of ersatz Creed anyways. Wouldn't their efforts be more profitable making fake Rolexes? Seems like a LOT of work striving for a reasonable facsimile without a high profit margin.

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I'd like to see what's printed in black inside the oval. You can read Paris at the bottom.
This is also called Olivier Creed possibly an in house variation that escaped.
Olivier's first bespoke cologne?
I don't know. I do know if it came from Creed it must have more historical value than $35.00. Maybe I'll wait to the last minute.

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Quote: Originally Posted by pluran The guy who runs the European Imports Store inherited all of the fragrances from his grandfather who had an imports store from 1928 -1986. The grandson is selling everything that was left in the warehouse. He doesn't know anything about perfume. He has stuff that goes back to the sixties. He's a cool guy and will refund your money if you don't like the product. I'd bet the bottle is real. Whether or not its been stored properly is another question. I second all of this. I've talked with him (I think his name is Jaime) a few times and he's quite open about where his items came from, how they've been stored, etc. As Pluran noted, condition is definitely a risk, but not authenticity. Given how reasonable some of the prices are; I'd say it might be worth the risk, especially considering he'll make good on them if they have turned. I ordered a few discontinued Lubins from him and will post here when they've arrived as to condition and such.
As for fakes, I think a dose of reality is good here because the Creedy-hysterics can run a little high. Being a smart consumer can help you find/distinguish fakes much more than just saying, "I've never heard of it, it's on ebay, so it must be fake!" and then posting incorrect information like happened on the first page.
The general rule to remember is that counterfeiters are there to make money (plain and simple) and so fake the goods that will sell the most easily. An unknown Creed fragrance like "Olivier Creed EdC" will never sell as quickly as a fake of GIT, so they don't bother. Hell, fake Sean John will sell more than Olivier Creed EdC. Likewise, a fake LV bag will sell a lot faster than a fake Valextra, even though Valextra is a much nicer, more exclusive and expensive bag. But, because nobody has heard of it, counterfeiters don't bother.
So, my advice is that we think these things through before jumping on the "it's fake!" banner. Let's do our homework or check into these things first.